“If all you’re doing is, the Democrats propose $2 trillion in infrastructure, so we say we’ll do $1.5 trillion, that’s not going to animate anybody,” he told the outlet. “That’s just ‘me, too’ Republicanism and ultimately that’s not going to be successful.”

During the interview, he also said Republicans need to be willing to take the hits that go along with proposing legislation that triggers Democrats, the media, and “woke corporations.”

“I’m totally willing to sacrifice an event in order to stand with the girls of my state. It’s an easy decision, and I don’t view it as pressure as much as saying, ‘The battle lines are clearly drawn, so which side are you going to be on?’”

The most important advice he had for Republicans was in reminding them that they “need to understand where the battle lines are being drawn.”

“Stop trying to grovel in front of them [the media], stop thinking that they’re going to like you, stop trying to impress them. Fight back against them,” he said during the interview. “That’s really what you have to do.”